John Morphet's new company held on to Lakeland Leisure Village and appears to be selling second hand lodges 'pre owned' ?
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Windermerelodge
- http://www.limefitt.com/smf/
- 13/10/2007 @ 09:19:42 am
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lakelandlodges
- http://www.lakelandlodges.co.uk
- 13/10/2007 @ 10:11:02 am
SLP strategy is to create a closed market. They don't actively promote let alone sell second hand lodges. They are intent on buying up second hand lodges to recover the 7.5 % commission and site a new lodge ( this has happen around the Beck and Loop areas of the park).
As we know this strategy is counter productive. Why?
- SLP strategy have alienated their owner community
- Owners cannot realise any 'capital growth'
- Limefitt development has been constrained - SLP own goal
Local estate agents are very wary of Limefitt Park and comitting any marketing expense when taking on lodge sales. I undertsand some owners have strong opinions in the area and we may have grounds for a legal challenge
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Windermerelodge
- http://www.limefitt.com/smf/
- 14/10/2007 @ 08:16:13 pm
Well anyone wanting a no cost sale advert on www.limefitt.com only has to ask me ;-)
It's totally free and no obligation of any sort - all I would ask is that your description is accurate!
SLP may not be keen on me doing ths but until they change their own site to include second hand lodges on the "For Sale" lists I can't see how they can really object!
If I were thinking of buying a lodge and saw threads like this I'd steer well clear, so if they don't change their stance they are going to find it harder and harder to off-load those pricey new lodges on Kirkstone.
Out of interest would anyone here refer a friend? (even with the prospect of a £2,000 reward) -
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lakelandlodges
- http://www.lakelandlodges.co.uk
- 15/10/2007 @ 08:07:56 am
Agree we need to apply pressure on SLP. Are there any legal requirements under the 'Home Owners' Act etc to compel them to sell second lodges on the open market
John Morphet is June 2006 in discussion with Lodgers Forum acknowledged the issue and talked about an estate agent package being made available to owners
We need some ideas from the Owner community??
Referring to John's point has anybody recommended a friend and taken up the £2k referral fee
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Windermerelodge
- http://www.limefitt.com/smf/
- 15/10/2007 @ 08:41:11 am
The problem lies, I suspect, in the rather vague wording about entring into "a private sale agreement".
No information about what this constitutes has ever been provided, although I was told recently by someone who has sold a lodge recently, that it does, allegedly, include an exclusivity clause.
If this is the case then they really do need to do a lot more to sell second hand lodges, or potential new buyers are going to get put off by reading stuff like this.
Whilst I can see a sort of short sighted logic in the proposition "We make more out of a new lodge sale so let's make sure we sell those first", it doesn't take much business acumen to work out that by broadening their offer (second hand and new, 85k to 249k) they can increase their target market, sell more AND keep their owners a lot happier. Trevor did seem to understand this, or at least he expresssed this view to me (maybe that's why he got banished!).
The root of the problem is that I think most of us would like to work with SLP in partnership but that most owners feel that such relationship as does exist is ridiculously one-sided.
7.5k commission on sales, no effort made to sell 2nd hand lodges, private rentals not allowed WXB, "interesting" logic used in the calculation of rates, no meaningful dialogue between owners and management - the list goes on.
I am sure that most of us don't object to SLP making a profit -they are a business after all - but we do need to feel that they are looking after us in exchange for the large sums of money we pay for leases and then in ongoing annual site fees. Instead I have the impression that many of us feel that they are ignoring our needs in the quest for a few extra quid.
The question is how can we show them that their attitude is counter productive for THEM.-
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Windermerelodge
- http://www.limefitt.com/smf/
- 15/10/2007 @ 08:44:19 am
oops - 7.5k commission should read 7.5% of course - an important distiction if you are about to part with quarter of a million quid on a Kirkstone Lodge :-)
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- 31/01/2008 @ 09:31:11 pm
I have read your comments with interest as we own a lodge at the carnforth site at least we now know that John Morphat treats all his lodge owners with contempt no matter what site What an exclusive club we bought in to with blinkers on.
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lakelandlodges
- http://www.lakelandlodges.co.uk
- 01/02/2008 @ 08:59:02 am
Maureen, do not despair you are experiences are not unique. Please send me an email colin.grace@praktis.com or call me on 07810 883897 and I will give you a view on how other owners on parks are taking issues foward in what does appear to an unregulated market
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- 03/02/2008 @ 09:35:34 am
Maureen
You might want to look at
http://southlakelandowners.freeforums.org/index.php
as well.
Yes - as do The Warren down at Abersoch and sevarl other sites.
The fact that the SLP website states baldly that ther are no second hand lodges for sale at Limefitt when you query it is bordering on ... well how would you describe it? I can think of a couple of rather uncomplimentary adjectives ;-)